"I'm a liberal in my compassion for the vulnerable. I'm a libertarian in my love of freedom. And I'm a conservative in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of those things."
"I'm a liberal in my compassion for the vulnerable. I'm a libertarian in my love of freedom. And I'm a conservative in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of those things."
" [T]o be Christian, one had to believe in the resurrection. That's not my view" -- well how about that! You just created a new "Christianity" to suit your own philosophy of life. I guess you can call yourself whatever you want, but I hope you never believe that it's YOU that decides what a Christian is, because then your base is as solid as quicksand, and so is your Christianity. Is being "saved" a part of your "view" of being a Christian, or have you eliminated that aspect as well? The Word of God is pretty solid on that -- Rom. 10:9-10 states pretty unequivocally "That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘎𝘰𝘥 𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘪𝘮 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." Or is believing that the "Word of God" is actually the word of God and actually means what it says also something you don't include in your "Christianity?"
Agree with you, jt. MS just invented his own religion. "Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain." 1 Corinthians 15:12-14. Mr. Shellenberger is free to believe whatever he wants, but don't call it Christianity when it obviously isn't.
When Jesus was alive, there was no organization known as christianity. That came much later with all of the councils of nicea etc and Jesus day you were either a follower of Jesus or a disciple. Many of us still consider ourselves followers of Jesus and are still in the church
I have to apologize for what I am focusing on from this interview because I subscribe to Public and I think Michael Shellenberger is doing great stuff and I wanted to know more about him. But then he mentioned hating watching videos -o kindred sprit- and then A SOLUTION-- WHAT?!? So I have tabbed up Parallels and Descript but I'm also feeling kind of wiped and I have to go make sure my mother (who, according to her, owns the town and needs to discuss something sinister with the police; yes dementia but she's generally pretty sweet) does not call the police, so if a more comprehensive explanation of the process might perhaps be kindly provided (seriously MS your video aversion has made me like you as a writer/[word that encompasses exactly what you do] AND a person; I adore my husband but we torture each other he sends me long videos and I send him long articles its like we are sending each other things in Polish and Slovakian, respectively) by all means sally forth...if not I will definitely explore when more alert. I also loved the "we". Keep up the good work; you are making a difference in the world and we are lucky to get to feel a part of it.
I also apologize for that ridiculous excuse for a sentence above aka most of the paragraph but I ain't fixing it :)
Loved this. Been a fan since he first wrote apocalypse never. Been neat to watch all my fav people connect and become fans of each other ( Rogan, Boghossian, Haidt, Taibbi, Weiss etc.) Would love to see the country follow the lead of these great ( and reasonable/rational) minds!!
Nice dialogue. Fun to learn about the man behind the politics! Michael, hold a community gathering in the North Bay, not just the UK. We need to build a movement in CA where the politics is loco.
Great to have a better insight in to who Michael is. I liked what he had to say! Too bad my vote for him for CA gov didn’t work out like we wanted. YAY for flat whites!!
Michael, were you afraid to mention that both your parents were raised Mennonite? Did you absorb any of that theology? We consider ourselves "ethnic" Mennonite, not practicing. Just hanging on to the idea of being good human beings.
This was so interesting. I followed you before you started your Substack. I checked out Apocalypse Never from the library and loved it so much I bought it and have gifted it. I'm a huge fan of all your different projects but to have this interview on so many personal and random topics was fun.
"I'm a liberal in my compassion for the vulnerable. I'm a libertarian in my love of freedom. And I'm a conservative in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of those things."
Great quote!
Thanks for this interview with Michael — I enjoyed reading this! Honest… and REAL.
"I'm a liberal in my compassion for the vulnerable. I'm a libertarian in my love of freedom. And I'm a conservative in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of those things."
Well said.
It’s something we used to call common sense.
That was way more entertaining than I had thought. Thanks. Now off to check out Parallels, Descript and Caddis.
Excellent 🤗I love Michael and read and support Public!
" [T]o be Christian, one had to believe in the resurrection. That's not my view" -- well how about that! You just created a new "Christianity" to suit your own philosophy of life. I guess you can call yourself whatever you want, but I hope you never believe that it's YOU that decides what a Christian is, because then your base is as solid as quicksand, and so is your Christianity. Is being "saved" a part of your "view" of being a Christian, or have you eliminated that aspect as well? The Word of God is pretty solid on that -- Rom. 10:9-10 states pretty unequivocally "That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘎𝘰𝘥 𝘳𝘢𝘪𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘩𝘪𝘮 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘢𝘥, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved." Or is believing that the "Word of God" is actually the word of God and actually means what it says also something you don't include in your "Christianity?"
Agree with you, jt. MS just invented his own religion. "Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain." 1 Corinthians 15:12-14. Mr. Shellenberger is free to believe whatever he wants, but don't call it Christianity when it obviously isn't.
Todd, first place my thoughts went to while reading his interview.
Jesus had many followers in life. Were they not Christians?
When Jesus was alive, there was no organization known as christianity. That came much later with all of the councils of nicea etc and Jesus day you were either a follower of Jesus or a disciple. Many of us still consider ourselves followers of Jesus and are still in the church
I have to apologize for what I am focusing on from this interview because I subscribe to Public and I think Michael Shellenberger is doing great stuff and I wanted to know more about him. But then he mentioned hating watching videos -o kindred sprit- and then A SOLUTION-- WHAT?!? So I have tabbed up Parallels and Descript but I'm also feeling kind of wiped and I have to go make sure my mother (who, according to her, owns the town and needs to discuss something sinister with the police; yes dementia but she's generally pretty sweet) does not call the police, so if a more comprehensive explanation of the process might perhaps be kindly provided (seriously MS your video aversion has made me like you as a writer/[word that encompasses exactly what you do] AND a person; I adore my husband but we torture each other he sends me long videos and I send him long articles its like we are sending each other things in Polish and Slovakian, respectively) by all means sally forth...if not I will definitely explore when more alert. I also loved the "we". Keep up the good work; you are making a difference in the world and we are lucky to get to feel a part of it.
I also apologize for that ridiculous excuse for a sentence above aka most of the paragraph but I ain't fixing it :)
Loved this. Been a fan since he first wrote apocalypse never. Been neat to watch all my fav people connect and become fans of each other ( Rogan, Boghossian, Haidt, Taibbi, Weiss etc.) Would love to see the country follow the lead of these great ( and reasonable/rational) minds!!
Pesticides, rather than carbs, more likely related to PD. Weld County is primarily ranch and farmland.
Also....https://catholicstudiesacademy.com/is-the-resurrection-of-jesus-christ-a-metaphor/
Nice dialogue. Fun to learn about the man behind the politics! Michael, hold a community gathering in the North Bay, not just the UK. We need to build a movement in CA where the politics is loco.
Great to have a better insight in to who Michael is. I liked what he had to say! Too bad my vote for him for CA gov didn’t work out like we wanted. YAY for flat whites!!
Michael, were you afraid to mention that both your parents were raised Mennonite? Did you absorb any of that theology? We consider ourselves "ethnic" Mennonite, not practicing. Just hanging on to the idea of being good human beings.
Great interview and loved learning about your content processing tools and favorite coffee!
I loved the way the interview ended. Flossing! I loved the questions and the responses.
This was so interesting. I followed you before you started your Substack. I checked out Apocalypse Never from the library and loved it so much I bought it and have gifted it. I'm a huge fan of all your different projects but to have this interview on so many personal and random topics was fun.
I live in Texas, not Cali, but I sure wish Michael were governor of California. For real!